Saturday, May 31, 2008
Both cartoons were printed in the March 4 edition of the LA Examiner, an issue that was in pretty bad shape on the microfilm; lot of restoration work but the results are still sub-par I'm afraid.
Up top we have Herriman commemorating an exhibition game between the New York Giants and the Angels. The New Yorkers were all complaining about being stiff and tired after their 3000 mile rail journey and so only beat the Angels by a pair. Anyone have an idea who this Samivel (Samuel?) Crane fellow is?
The second cartoon, an editorial, has Herriman complaining about the DA's apparent lack of interest in the Examiner's charges of corruption in LA's road-building endeavors. Why George feels the need to credit Jimmy Swinnerton on this cartoon is a mystery to me.
PS - the images above are PNG graphics rather than JPGs. If anyone has trouble viewing them or notices any other odd behavior please let me know.
Labels: Herriman's LA Examiner Cartoons
(Apols if this is repeated...comment thing acting odd.)
I believe these are his career stats, though for some reason the 1889 stats don't show up:
If you google him, there's a ref to him testifying at a baseball player's trial late in the teens.
Thanks for the info and links. Kinda feel dumb not to have thought to look him up in the Baseball Encyclopedia. Ah well...
Friday, May 30, 2008
Mystery Strips of E&P - "N" Listings
Nanny O'Twinkle, 1948, Larry Reynolds, Press Alliance, daily
Nature Notes, 1939, J.N. Meissner, KNM, thrice weekly panel
Nature's Notebook, 1929, Frank Thorne, Science Service, daily (found by Ray Bottorff Jr , but it is a text column with minor illustration)
Nature-Tomes, 1970, Ficklen and Raynor, Avalon Features, daily panel
The Newlyweds, 1993-96, Mike Brown and Charlie Michaels, Family Matters Publications, weekly
Nehi and Skyhi, 1937, Joe Buresch, Thompson Service, daily strip
Nellie's Notebook, 1966, Art Gates, Chicago Tribune, daily panel (found! by Ray Bottorff Jr. in Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Orlando Sentinel)
Nelly Newcook, 1938, Jessie A. Knox, Our Family Food, weekly strip (found by Ray Bottorff Jr. but it is a text column with vaguely cartoony illustration)
The Nerve of Some People, 1945-46, Ed Sullivan, Associated Features, daily panel
The Nest, 1985, Mario and Nancy Risso, Mercury Features, daily strip
The Neutrons, 1980-81, Stan Meritakis, self-syndicated, weekly
Never Land, 1980, Eddie Pipe, Allied Press International, daily panel
New Dialogue For Old Movies, 1967-68, uncredited, C-K Special Features, daily panel (found by Ray Bottorff Jr., stills from old movies with 'funny' captions, no credits and found only in a Canada paper, Edmonton Journal, on a few widely dispersed occasions.)
New Jersey Subjects, 1969, Gar Schmitt, self-syndicated, weekly panel (editorial cartoons, not eligible for SG)
New Outlook, 1949-50, Jack Fitch, A.S. Curtis Features, daily panel
Newbies, 2000-present, John Kovalic and Liz Rathke, Shetland Productions, weekly strip (web only?)
Next of Kin, 2000-present, Clinton Harmon, Clintoons, weekly strip
Nextdoor Neighbor, 1947, Bill Nickel, Editorial Services, weekly panel
Nice Weekend, 1978, Joe Mahoney, Community & Suburban Press Service, weekly panel (found! in Berwyn Life)
Nick Ryan - The Skull, 1993-94, Kevin Miller and David Watkins, Suzerain Group, daily strip
Night Riders, 1940, Ralph Matz, Miller Features, daily strip
Nightlife, 1983-84, Georgeson, Superior Features, weekly panel
Nimon's Island, 1997-99, Kevin Donahue, Ctoons Studios, daily and Sunday strip [apparently a web-only strip according to comments below]
Nimrod, 1990-2003, Morrie Turner, Worldwide Media, daily strip
Nip and Tuck, 1936-39, Bess Goe Willis, Ledger Syndicate, weekly strip [do have the version that was apparently a local strip in the Boston Post 1942-43]
Nip and Tuck, 1963-69, Fred Treadgold, Singer Features, weekly strip
No Rodeo, 2001-present, Robert Berardi, self-syndicated, daily and Sunday strip (probable web-only feature)
The Noob, 1994, uncredited, LA Times Syndicate, daily (now a webcomic)
Noodles, 1978-79, Robert Righetti, Danny Ball Productions, weekly panel
Not Too Smart, 1993-94, Charles McDonel, Comic Art Therapy, daily
Nully Fy, 1971, M. Sitton, Winford Company Features, daily strip (never published according tto Alter Ego article - see comment below)
Nutty Nature, 1983-99, Fallon and Pracy, BP Singer Features, weekly strip
Labels: Mystery Strips
The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine does have old pages archived...
Unfortunately, while libraries have mostly tossed out their newspapers volumes, but at least you have microfilm. Web-based comics seem to just disappear forever when the website goes away...
I don't remember "Nimon's Island," tho...
And thanks, Ray, for the heads-up on Nimon. I suspect most of these oddball items from about 2000 on in E&P are web-only features.
In Doc's interview with Sitton, Sitton says Nully Fy was "a modern-type humor strip with much simpler artwork, about the Space Age." He goes on to say that the guy promoting it (unclear if this was the guy running Winford) "had some financial reversals" whereupon Sitton tried some self-promotion for awhile. But eventually"the strip collapsed...and I gave up on it".
So the strip never appeared.
Sitton did try some other attempts at syndication (also sampled in Alter Ego #78), but only his, and W.C.Fabell's, Nature Was First ever got into any papers.
Nature Was First, he says, peaked in about 39 papers. Not enough to make a living and after a year and a half he gave up on it.
Alter Ego #78 also has an interview with Harold LeDoux from about 2005.
His memories of Dan Heilman are not fond: "he'd be a [s.o.b.]" and assisting him "was just hell on earth." Unlike his affectionate tales of Stephen Douglas and Harold Anderson.
Thanks for the info! I don't suppose the Alter Ego article has exact start and end dates for "Nature Was First"? All I have is 47-48.
Mr. Sitton does give his birthdate as
April 1, 1920 though.
Hey, I use that for my records.
I asked Mr. Watkins about this strip and he graciously replied, which I quote:
"Wow....The Skull, I haven't even thought about that in ages. It was one of my favorites but never caught on. Man, that was 16 years ago? Where does the time go???? Geez, 16 years....I feel so old now. Thanks, ha ha!
Frankly, I have no idea where it appeared, that was too long ago. I know it wasn't more than 5 papers, thus the quick death. I think Juno, Alaska, (some city in Alaska) and there was some crime weekly in Detroit I think. There was a monthly paper called The Funny Pages (or The Funny Papers) that ran nothing but comics and had us. A couple other places I simply don't remember. What I most remember is that our home paper refused to run it (we were both from Minnesota even though I was living in NY at the time and Miller was in Florida). The only thing physical from back then that I know of is the comic book we did after the strip folded.
http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?minyr=1990&TID=554661 The comic did not reprint the comic strips, they were new adventures. Sorry, I can't be of more help."
So I figured, what the heck, I'll ask him about his other strips and panels listed in Strickler's E&P Index. The strips I asked about were
"Saint Paul and Duncan"
"And Bob Created Woman"
"Alias the Skull"
And again he kindly responded to my bothersome requests:
"Ha ha, I'm happy someone is talking about these, I just wish I could be more help but it's just too long ago.
Saint Paul & Duncan ran in just one paper for five months, no idea where.
Alias The Skull was the comic book Skull chopped into a Sunday format, however, it never sold. The Funny Pages carried the first one when the dailies dried up, but I dropped it soon after.
Legal comic strip Extenuating Circumstances ran in four or five crime papers I don't recall BUT it did have one paper big enough for me to remember, it ran about six months in The National Law Journal (I think '92)...I remember that one because I made some friends there and it was national.
Nothing else made it into any papers, unfortunately. Suzerain was my self publishing outfit. When the comic strips died I turned to comic books for the next decade or so."
So it seems that "Nick Ryan" may have run in a Juneau newspaper and Saint Paul and Duncan possibly in another newspaper. The others don't sound like real newspapers in the Strippers Guide sense; and there is no hard proof yet of the above two named strips.
Anyway I appreciated David Watkins answering my questions and thought I'd share them with this crowd.
And Nature's Notebook has no connection with an occassional 1 page text story feature seen in the line of Archie comic book titles (later reprinted in the Archie comic digest line) from circa 1950's-early 1960's.
No telling if this Archie series you mention is any connection; I'm not familiar with it. But of course this one was being offered to newspapers.
Nature's Notebook, 1929, Frank Thorne, Science Service, daily
Found! And so not a comic.
The Evening Sun (Baltimore, Maryland), Thursday, November 20, 1930, p.20:
-Ray Bottorff Jr
The Orlando Sentinel (Orlando, Florida), Monday, September 5, 1966, p.11:
Fort Worth Star-Telegram (Fort Worth, Texas), Thursday, October 27, 1966, p.20-G:
Latest I found:
April 20, 1967, p.12-A:
-Ray Bottorff Jr
Found! But is it a comic? I shall leave it up to Allan to judge.
Earliest I found:
The Evening Standard (Uniontown, Pennsylvania), Friday, July 21, 1939, p. 8:
Latest I found:
The Star Press (Muncie, Indiana), Friday, December 8, 1939, p.19:
I found four examples of the feature of these two newspapers.
-Ray Bottorff Jr
Found! But in Canadian newspapers only. It seems to be a Fumenti panel, without the word balloons.
Edmonton Journal, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, Thursday, November 2, 1967, p.15:
December 29, 1967, p.25:
-Ray Bottorff Jr
Confirmed? There is a 1970 article about the cartoonist that mentions they've been publishing it since 1967. Looks like it is his syndicated weekly editorial cartoons.
The News (Paterson, New Jersey), Tuesday, April 21, 1970, p.23:
An example of his editorial cartoons, April 22, 1970, p.18:
-Ray Bottorff Jr
Monday, May 26, 2008
In the meantime, if anyone reading this happens to be in the know about getting grants for doing scholarly research I'd really like to have the opportunity to pick your brain. I started on a magazine article and it's becoming apparent that it could be turned into an excellent book if I had the time and backing to do further research.