Wednesday, December 03, 2008
Obscurity of the Day: Times Have Changed?
Here's an obscure panel cartoon called Times Have Changed?. You might be thinking to yourself, "What a transparent rip-off of The Flintstones and their 'modern stone-age family'!". Only problem with that assessment is that this feature predates The Flintstones by about seven years!We all know that The Flintstones owed a lot of its inspiration to Jackie Gleason's classic The Honeymooners, but could Hanna and Barbera also have been fans of this panel? The similarities go well beyond the modernized prehistoric locale -- here we have costumes that match, domesticated dinosaurs used as appliances, rocks used in place of paper, even Hollywood celebrities recast as their antediluvian equivalents. And since this feature was distributed by the Los Angeles based Mirror Enterprises syndicate, it was presumably showing up in papers read in Hollywood.
For such an intriguing feature, though, I'm afraid I don't have much information. It started on November 16 1953 and ran until sometime in 1955 -- my last samples are from February of that year. The creators were billed as "Clayton and Chick" (yes, the paper that printed my samples somehow misunderstood that and ran the credit as Clayton S. Chick). I don't have even a guess as to who these people are or what their respective duties were on the feature. Can anyone better ID these folks?
Labels: Obscurities
Comments:
The inspiration for the updated cavemen motif may have come from a series of animated cartoons by Max Fleischer called the "Stone Age" series in Ca. 1940.
# posted by 
: 12/03/2008 11:35 AM
: 12/03/2008 11:35 AM
Hi Anon -
Modern cavemen aren't all that rare a breed in comics (see "Our Antediluvian Ancestors" elsewhere on this blog for instance) -- I just found this particular take on the subject to be almost ridiculously close to the concepts in The Flintstones.
--Allan
Modern cavemen aren't all that rare a breed in comics (see "Our Antediluvian Ancestors" elsewhere on this blog for instance) -- I just found this particular take on the subject to be almost ridiculously close to the concepts in The Flintstones.
--Allan
Hello, Allan---Could the "Chick" here be the same one who did those goofy little religious comics one often finds left in restrooms and public telephones?------Cole Johnson.
# posted by : 12/04/2008 12:31 PM
: 12/04/2008 12:31 PM
Jack Chick? Ya know, you might have something there. According to a bio Chick was in California at the time. I found one of his comics online in which the styles are at least vaguely similar. Check out the tract "A Demon's Nightmare" on this site:
http://www.monsterwax.com/chick.html
Am I crazy or do I detect a resemblance?
--Allan
http://www.monsterwax.com/chick.html
Am I crazy or do I detect a resemblance?
--Allan
Jack Chick was my first guess too... and if that were the case, what a fascinating find! (I mean, it's interesting in its own right, but given the sort of strict scripturalism of Chick Publications, if this was indeed Jack Chick, I wonder if it was done before he was born again or something-- I mean, there's no cavemen or dinosaurs in Genesis.
Congratulations! You have found the strip I've been searching for years to locate. And not only that, you were on the right tract about the artist. It IS Jack Chick of Chick Publications fame. I wish I had seen this before finishing our documentary on the artist... it just came out in 2008! (You can see a preview of it at www.monsterwax.com/chickflick.html) If you want to see more samples of Chick's work, the fan site for Chick collectors is www.ChickComics.com
Thanks for unearthing these classic strips. They are even better than I imagined!
Thanks for unearthing these classic strips. They are even better than I imagined!
P.S. Clayton was the writer and Jack Chick was the artist... although I suspect Chick also wrote some of them as well. His comic style is clearly represented in many of these examples.
Jack Chick did tell me that he did a strip about dinosaurs! I'm sure this is the strip he told me about!!!
The artist is Jack Clayton.. he drew Paddywack for Cheeky and Whoopee comic UK..also drew the joke pages in Jackpot and Buster comic which were very good..
Hi Peter -- Do you have any further info to back that up? I'm no expert on British cartoonists, but it looks like he started appearing on the scenes in the late 1970s, a loooong time after this feature. Do you have some biographical data to show that he was working back in the early 50s? Also, was he in the U.S. at the time, since it seems quite unlikely that this minor feature would have been a cross-Atlantic partnership.
Thanks, Allan
Thanks, Allan
quote Jack Clayton (c1930-c2000) was an extremely prolific English humorous cartoonist. He worked for many publications including The Daily Sketch, The Daily Mirror, IPC Magazines, Peter Gray comics etc. He drew the "Paddywack" strips in Cheeky Weekly, the joke page "Hit the Jackpot" in Jackpot magazine and during the 1970s he drew "Useless Eustace" in the Daily Mail amongst many others.
I can't back it up...so all i can find..
I can't back it up...so all i can find..
The Deseret News of
November 17, 1953 (page 4a) introduces the
panel as by Bill Clayton and Jack Chick.
November 17, 1953 (page 4a) introduces the
panel as by Bill Clayton and Jack Chick.
This will be of interest...
https://thenib.com/jack-chick-goes-to-heaven/
Interesting obit, to be sure, from a political site.
https://thenib.com/jack-chick-goes-to-heaven/
Interesting obit, to be sure, from a political site.
# posted by : 9/13/2021 12:37 AM
: 9/13/2021 12:37 AM
It's funny to see this, given how Johnny Hart's fanatical evangelistic Christianity started to intrude on his very-good-for-a-few-years-then-mediocre "B.C.".
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