Tuesday, February 12, 2019
Obscurity of the Day: Bertha
Bill Gallo was a New York Daily News fixture for over half a century, covering sports graphically and in prose for an appreciative sports-mad city. Gallo's most famous and enduring creation as a sports cartoonist was Basement Bertha, a frumpy yenta whose abiding passion was sports.
Gallo's realm was almost exclusively the sports pages, but in the early 1970s he was prevailed upon to add to his responsibilities a Sunday color comic strip using the character. The strip was like the other Sunday News homegrown features in that it never ran every week, but appeared only when there was a hole that needed to be filled in the Sunday section. The strip was titled simply Bertha (not Basement Bertha as reported in the World Encyclopedia of Cartoons), and I don't have definitive start and end dates for it, but can only report having examples from 1972-1975.
I was all hepped up to try out the new addition to newspapers.com of the Daily News to get you definite dates on Bertha, but I was crushed to find out that their Daily News archive don't include many Sunday comics sections for the early and mid-1970s.
Labels: Obscurities
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Allan, I own 99.5 % of the Sunday sections from 1970 to present. I have 18 instances of BERTHA appearing between March 26, 1972 and July 15, 1979. They break down this way....
4 in 1972
6 in 1974
3 in 1975
3 in 1976
1 in 1978
1 in 1979
Doc V.
4 in 1972
6 in 1974
3 in 1975
3 in 1976
1 in 1978
1 in 1979
Doc V.
One thing to consider is that this rare filler may have appeared additionally in the "Home" vs "National" editions of the Sunday comics. I've found over the decades there were occasional discrepancies based on ad placements.
Allan,
If you ever have questions pertaining to the NY Sunday News comics, ask away. I've indexed their contents from the mid 1960's to 1988 (with 1989 to present sitting a few feet away, unindexed) as well as at least half of the 1940's and 1950's and a third of the 1930's.
Doc V.
If you ever have questions pertaining to the NY Sunday News comics, ask away. I've indexed their contents from the mid 1960's to 1988 (with 1989 to present sitting a few feet away, unindexed) as well as at least half of the 1940's and 1950's and a third of the 1930's.
Doc V.
Thank you very much for the information, Doc V! I've been told that you've shared a lot of your NYSN research on Facebook, but since I'm not a member of that clan I haven't been able to take advantage.
I'd very much like to pin down the running dates on all these fillers, and was jumping with joy when the News was announced to be available on newspapers.com. Alas, it turned out to be a terrible disappointment.
I have encountered the differences you speak of between the local and national edition of the News, but not with enough data to come to any conclusions at all. Are the fillers limited to one or the other? (That would make research a bit easier, so I'm guessing the answer is no.)
For the record, here are most of the Sunday News start and end dates I'm missing. The first two are syndicated, but I think they may have definitive end dates in the SN:
* end date in the NYSN for Laugh-In
* end date in the NYSN for Louie
* start date for Teenwise
* start date for Beany
* start date for Bibs 'n Tucker
* start and end date for Bumper to Bumper
* start and end date for The Folks Upstairs
* start and end date for Fun Fare
* confirmation of start and end dates of This Man's Army
* start date for Tweety-Pie
* start and end dates for The Zanities
--Allan Holtz
I'd very much like to pin down the running dates on all these fillers, and was jumping with joy when the News was announced to be available on newspapers.com. Alas, it turned out to be a terrible disappointment.
I have encountered the differences you speak of between the local and national edition of the News, but not with enough data to come to any conclusions at all. Are the fillers limited to one or the other? (That would make research a bit easier, so I'm guessing the answer is no.)
For the record, here are most of the Sunday News start and end dates I'm missing. The first two are syndicated, but I think they may have definitive end dates in the SN:
* end date in the NYSN for Laugh-In
* end date in the NYSN for Louie
* start date for Teenwise
* start date for Beany
* start date for Bibs 'n Tucker
* start and end date for Bumper to Bumper
* start and end date for The Folks Upstairs
* start and end date for Fun Fare
* confirmation of start and end dates of This Man's Army
* start date for Tweety-Pie
* start and end dates for The Zanities
--Allan Holtz
Allan, I'll look up those fillers for you tonight. One thing memory tells me is that Bumper to Bumper was a prime example of a filler that appeared in one or the other local vs national editions of the NYSN. And I believe it worked both ways, sometimes it appeared in the local and not national, and sometimes the reverse! So this is very frustrating in developing an all-time index. I literally need a complete collection of both versions to nail it down 100%! I also believe that at many, many points in time, the two versions were identical, and I have both versions from certain weeks in the 1940, 1950's and 1960's that show no difference.
My Facebook group devoted to this particular Sunday comics is called "The New York Sunday Comics History Group"
Doc V.
My Facebook group devoted to this particular Sunday comics is called "The New York Sunday Comics History Group"
Doc V.
Allan,
In the NYSN, first the definites....
Laugh-In ended on 3/26/74
Louie ended on 9/29/74
Teen-Wise began on 9/11/66
Now comes the rest...
Beany - The earliest I have is the very first paper to appear after the newspaper strike. The section is undated but is probably right before 4/7/63. My blog post on the strike has a scan of it..
https://timely-atlas-comics.blogspot.com/2015/09/ot-tales-from-new-york-daily-news.html
Bibs N' Tucker - Earliest I've seen is 3/20/55
Bumper to Bumper - Earliest I've seen is 2/5/56, latest is 6/24/62. This filler was used quite often seitched out with ads in National vs Home editions.
The Folks Upstairs - Earliest I have is 5/8/55. Latest is 8/25/57
Fun Fare - Earliest I have is 3/20/55. Latest is 7/15/56
This Man's Army - Earliest I have is 3/27/57. Latest is 4/24/66, after not appearing for about 4 years!
Tweety-Pie. Earliest I have is 9/27/64. Latest is 2/25/79, after not appearing for almost 5 years!
The Zanities - I have 3 total appearances, 2 in 1949 where the strip is actually titled "The Zanities of '49". Earliest is 5/15/49, then 10/23/49, then out of the blue as "The Zanities", on 1/16/55.
Hope this helps!
Doc V.
In the NYSN, first the definites....
Laugh-In ended on 3/26/74
Louie ended on 9/29/74
Teen-Wise began on 9/11/66
Now comes the rest...
Beany - The earliest I have is the very first paper to appear after the newspaper strike. The section is undated but is probably right before 4/7/63. My blog post on the strike has a scan of it..
https://timely-atlas-comics.blogspot.com/2015/09/ot-tales-from-new-york-daily-news.html
Bibs N' Tucker - Earliest I've seen is 3/20/55
Bumper to Bumper - Earliest I've seen is 2/5/56, latest is 6/24/62. This filler was used quite often seitched out with ads in National vs Home editions.
The Folks Upstairs - Earliest I have is 5/8/55. Latest is 8/25/57
Fun Fare - Earliest I have is 3/20/55. Latest is 7/15/56
This Man's Army - Earliest I have is 3/27/57. Latest is 4/24/66, after not appearing for about 4 years!
Tweety-Pie. Earliest I have is 9/27/64. Latest is 2/25/79, after not appearing for almost 5 years!
The Zanities - I have 3 total appearances, 2 in 1949 where the strip is actually titled "The Zanities of '49". Earliest is 5/15/49, then 10/23/49, then out of the blue as "The Zanities", on 1/16/55.
Hope this helps!
Doc V.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for all that information!! I've updated my data and added edits to the posts on this blog with your info.
The piece on your blog about the Daily News strike was fascinating. I made a comment there with some information.
Oddly enough, I have all three of The Zanities, two as tearsheets, one as original art. Weird.
Louie is supposed to have run until 1976, so I guess the News gave up on it a little early ... unless Hanan dropped the Sunday early.
Can I assume you meant 3/26/72 (not 1974) as the end date of Laugh-In?
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The piece on your blog about the Daily News strike was fascinating. I made a comment there with some information.
Oddly enough, I have all three of The Zanities, two as tearsheets, one as original art. Weird.
Louie is supposed to have run until 1976, so I guess the News gave up on it a little early ... unless Hanan dropped the Sunday early.
Can I assume you meant 3/26/72 (not 1974) as the end date of Laugh-In?
